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People need to realize GEORGIA'S DEFENSE MINISTER DAVIT KEZERRASHVILI IS AN ISRAELI - Oh no I am not being anti-Semite at all!! NeoCons in the Pentagon are all ISRAELI SPIES and yes most hold DUAL US ISRAELI CITIZENSHIP like Homeland Stupidity butcher of Americans Michael Chertoff!
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From: LIBERTY CALLING IS READY!
Date: Aug 11, 2008 11:38 AM
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From: No Quotas On Truth is READY!
Date: 11 Aug 2008, 11:30 AM
http://thinkprogress. org/2008/08/11/neocon-russia-war/
Neocons Call For US To Launch War With Russia»
Today the New York Times reports that Russia is escalating its war with Georgia, “moving tanks and troops through the separatist enclave of South Ossetia and advancing toward the city of Gori in central Georgia” and even bombing parts of Tibilisi, the Georgian captial
Russia’s increasing aggression is putting a spark into American neoconservatives Today on the Times op-ed page, one of their leaders, William Kristol, claims the US must “defend” Georgia’s sovereignty as a reward for its participation in Iraq, while the conservative Washington Times is calling for “maximum pressure” on Russia:
Bill Kristol: [Georgia] has had the third-largest military presence — about 2,000 troops — fighting along with U.S. soldiers and marines in Iraq.For this reason alone, we owe Georgia a serious effort to defend its sovereignty Surely we cannot simply stand by as an autocratic aggressor gobbles up part of — and perhaps destabilizes all of — a friendly democratic nation
Washington Times: It is in America’s interest to exert maximum pressure on Russia to withdraw its troops and halt the interference in Georgian territory This latest act shows the need for greater resolve in establishing a European security system that can be an effective check on Russian power
Writing in the Washington Post today, Robert Kagan goes even further, suggesting that the Georgia-Russia conflict may be the start of World War III:
Do you recall the precise details of the Sudeten Crisis that led to Nazi Germany’s invasion of Czechoslovakia? Of course not, because that morally ambiguous dispute is rightly remembered as a minor part of a much bigger drama[…]
The mood is reminiscent of Germany after World War I, when Germans complained about the “shameful Versailles diktat” imposed on a prostrate Germany by the victorious powers and about the corrupt politicians who stabbed the nation in the back
Like a good neoconservative, Kagan also links the Western response to the conflict and its wider policy towards Russia as “appeasement"
Matthew Yglesias asks of Kagan’s World War II analogy: “If we launch a war with Russia — which would seem to be the point of busting out the analogy — then how are we going to find the time to launch wars with Iran and China?”
Digg It!
UpdateJoe Klein over at Time's Swampland notes that its "raining Nazis Matt Duss at the Wonk Room cautions against "throwing 'the Vladimir Putins and Hu Jintaos and Mahmoud Ahmadinejads of the world' all together into one category"
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From: Eddie NWO Censored
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Thanks To Israeli Training We Are Fending Off Russia
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War in Georgia: The Israeli connection
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For past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping Gerogian army to preparer for war against Russia through arms deals, training of infantry units and security advice
08-10-08, YNet Israel News
Arie Egozi Latest Update:
http://www. ynetnews. com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3580136%2C00. html
The fighting which broke out over the weekend between Russia and Georgia has brought Israel's intensive involvement in the region into the limelight.This involvement includes the sale of advanced weapons to Georgia and the training of the Georgian army's infantry forces
The Defense Ministry held a special meeting Sunday to discuss the various arms deals held by Israelis in Georgia, but no change in policy has been announced as of yet
"The subject is closely monitored," said sources in the Defense Ministry. "We are not operating in any way which may counter Israeli interests. We have turned down many requests involving arms sales to Georgia; and the ones which have been approves have been duly scrutinized.So far, we have placed no limitations on the sale of protective measures
Israel began selling arms to Georgia about seven years ago following an initiative by Georgian citizens who immigrated to Israel and became businesspeople
"They contacted defense industry officials and arms dealers and told them that Georgia had relatively large budgets and could be interested in purchasing Israeli weapons," says a source involved in arms exports
The military cooperation between the countries developed swiftly.The fact that Georgia's defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli who is fluent in Hebrew contributed to this cooperation
"His door was always open to the Israelis who came and offered his country arms systems made in Israel," the source said."Compared to countries in Eastern Europe, the deals in this country were conducted fast, mainly due to the defense minister's personal involvement
Among the Israelis who took advantage of the opportunity and began doing business in Georgia were former Minister Roni Milo and his brother Shlomo, former director-general of the Military Industries, Brigadier-General (Res.) Gal Hirsch and Major-General (Res.) Yisrael Ziv
Roni Milo conducted business in Georgia for Elbit Systems and the Military Industries, and with his help Israel's defense industries managed to sell to Georgia remote-piloted vehicles (RPVs), automatic turrets for armored vehicles, antiaircraft systems, communication systems, shells and rockets
According to Israeli sources, Gal Hirsch gave the Georgian army advice on the establishment of elite units such as Sayeret Matkal and on rearmament, and gave various courses in the fields of combat intelligence and fighting in built-up areas
'Don't anger the Russians'
The Israelis operating in Georgia attempted to convince the Israeli Aerospace Industries to sell various systems to the Georgian air force, but were turned down.The reason for the refusal was "special" relations created between the Aerospace Industries and Russia in terms of improving fighter jets produced in the former USSR and the fear that selling weapons to Georgia would anger the Russians and prompt them to cancel the deals
Israelis' activity in Georgia and the deals they struck there were all authorized by the Defense Ministry.Israel viewed Georgia as a friendly state to which there is no reason not to sell arms systems similar to those Israel exports to other countries in the world
As the tension between Russia and Georgia grew, however, increasing voices were heard in Israel – particularly in the Foreign Ministry – calling on the Defense Ministry to be more selective in the approval of the deals with Georgia for fear that they would anger Russia
"It was clear that too many unmistakable Israeli systems in the possesion of the Georgian army would be like a red cloth in the face of a raging bull as far as Russia is concerned," explained a source in the defense establishment
For inctance, the Russians viewed the operation of the Elbit System's RPVs as a real provocation
"It was clear that the Russians were angry," says a defense establishment source, "and that the interception of three of these RPVs in the past three months was an expression of this anger.Not everyone in Israel understood the sensitive nerve Israel touched when it supplied such an advanced arms system to a country whose relations with Russia are highly tense
In May it was eventually decide to approve future deals with Georgia only for the sale of non-offensive weapon systems, such as intelligence, communications and computer systems, and not to approve deals for the sale of rifles, aircraft, sells, etc
A senior source in the Military Industry said Saturday that despite some reporters, the activity of Georgia's military industry was extremely limited
"We conducted a small job for them several years ago," he said."The rest of the deals remained on paper
Dov Pikulin, one of the owners of the Authentico company specializing in trips and journeys to the area, says however that "the Israeli is the main investor in the Georgian economy.Everyone is there, directly or indirectly
Georgian minister: Israel should be proud
"The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers," Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili said Saturday
Yakobashvili is a Jew and is fluent in Hebrew."We are now in a fight against the great Russia," he said, "and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House, because Georgia cannot survive on its own
"It's important that the entire world understands that what is happening in Georgia now will affect the entire world order.It's not just Georgia's business, but the entire world's business
One of the Georgian parliament members did not settle Saturday for the call for American aid, urging Israel to help stop the Russian offensive as well: "We need help from the UN and from our friends, headed by the United States and Israel.Today Georgia is in danger – tomorrow all the democratic countries in the region and in the entire world will be in danger too
Zvi Zinger and Hanan Greenberg contributed to this report
Bill Kristol, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams and Douglas Feith are ALL ISRAELI NEOCON SPIES (known as ZioCons) who had manipulated US war plannings in the Pentagon and destroying USA and killing American soldiers for Israel’s benefits – They made the illegal war against Iraq possible – Another Zionist dual Israeli-US citizen Michael Chertoff is about to roundup your families upon a massive FEMA martial law false flag event
..
The Real News
August 9, 2008
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Israel, Iran and the new neocons
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ANP: Neocons say Bush should let Israel attack Iran after election day before new president takes office
American News Project: Washington's neocons are alive and well, advising both John McCain and President Bush. Now many are saying Bush should permit Israel to attack Iran's nuclear facilities after Election Day before the new president takes office. ANP investigates as we chase down John Bolton, Bill Kristol and Frank Gaffney to see how far ahead these hawks are thinking.And a new report says the whole plan could backfire
Sibel Edmonds - The US NeoCon Military Industrial Complex - Turkey - Israeli Alliance
----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: LIBERTY CALLING IS READY!
Date: Aug 11, 2008 11:38 AM
----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: No Quotas On Truth is READY!
Date: 11 Aug 2008, 11:30 AM
http://thinkprogress. org/2008/08/11/neocon-russia-war/
Neocons Call For US To Launch War With Russia»
Today the New York Times reports that Russia is escalating its war with Georgia, “moving tanks and troops through the separatist enclave of South Ossetia and advancing toward the city of Gori in central Georgia” and even bombing parts of Tibilisi, the Georgian captial
Russia’s increasing aggression is putting a spark into American neoconservatives Today on the Times op-ed page, one of their leaders, William Kristol, claims the US must “defend” Georgia’s sovereignty as a reward for its participation in Iraq, while the conservative Washington Times is calling for “maximum pressure” on Russia:
Bill Kristol: [Georgia] has had the third-largest military presence — about 2,000 troops — fighting along with U.S. soldiers and marines in Iraq.For this reason alone, we owe Georgia a serious effort to defend its sovereignty Surely we cannot simply stand by as an autocratic aggressor gobbles up part of — and perhaps destabilizes all of — a friendly democratic nation
Washington Times: It is in America’s interest to exert maximum pressure on Russia to withdraw its troops and halt the interference in Georgian territory This latest act shows the need for greater resolve in establishing a European security system that can be an effective check on Russian power
Writing in the Washington Post today, Robert Kagan goes even further, suggesting that the Georgia-Russia conflict may be the start of World War III:
Do you recall the precise details of the Sudeten Crisis that led to Nazi Germany’s invasion of Czechoslovakia? Of course not, because that morally ambiguous dispute is rightly remembered as a minor part of a much bigger drama[…]
The mood is reminiscent of Germany after World War I, when Germans complained about the “shameful Versailles diktat” imposed on a prostrate Germany by the victorious powers and about the corrupt politicians who stabbed the nation in the back
Like a good neoconservative, Kagan also links the Western response to the conflict and its wider policy towards Russia as “appeasement"
Matthew Yglesias asks of Kagan’s World War II analogy: “If we launch a war with Russia — which would seem to be the point of busting out the analogy — then how are we going to find the time to launch wars with Iran and China?”
Digg It!
UpdateJoe Klein over at Time's Swampland notes that its "raining Nazis Matt Duss at the Wonk Room cautions against "throwing 'the Vladimir Putins and Hu Jintaos and Mahmoud Ahmadinejads of the world' all together into one category"
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Eddie NWO Censored
************************************************************
Thanks To Israeli Training We Are Fending Off Russia
************************************************************
War in Georgia: The Israeli connection
*******************************************
For past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping Gerogian army to preparer for war against Russia through arms deals, training of infantry units and security advice
08-10-08, YNet Israel News
Arie Egozi Latest Update:
http://www. ynetnews. com/articles/0%2C7340%2CL-3580136%2C00. html
The fighting which broke out over the weekend between Russia and Georgia has brought Israel's intensive involvement in the region into the limelight.This involvement includes the sale of advanced weapons to Georgia and the training of the Georgian army's infantry forces
The Defense Ministry held a special meeting Sunday to discuss the various arms deals held by Israelis in Georgia, but no change in policy has been announced as of yet
"The subject is closely monitored," said sources in the Defense Ministry. "We are not operating in any way which may counter Israeli interests. We have turned down many requests involving arms sales to Georgia; and the ones which have been approves have been duly scrutinized.So far, we have placed no limitations on the sale of protective measures
Israel began selling arms to Georgia about seven years ago following an initiative by Georgian citizens who immigrated to Israel and became businesspeople
"They contacted defense industry officials and arms dealers and told them that Georgia had relatively large budgets and could be interested in purchasing Israeli weapons," says a source involved in arms exports
The military cooperation between the countries developed swiftly.The fact that Georgia's defense minister, Davit Kezerashvili, is a former Israeli who is fluent in Hebrew contributed to this cooperation
"His door was always open to the Israelis who came and offered his country arms systems made in Israel," the source said."Compared to countries in Eastern Europe, the deals in this country were conducted fast, mainly due to the defense minister's personal involvement
Among the Israelis who took advantage of the opportunity and began doing business in Georgia were former Minister Roni Milo and his brother Shlomo, former director-general of the Military Industries, Brigadier-General (Res.) Gal Hirsch and Major-General (Res.) Yisrael Ziv
Roni Milo conducted business in Georgia for Elbit Systems and the Military Industries, and with his help Israel's defense industries managed to sell to Georgia remote-piloted vehicles (RPVs), automatic turrets for armored vehicles, antiaircraft systems, communication systems, shells and rockets
According to Israeli sources, Gal Hirsch gave the Georgian army advice on the establishment of elite units such as Sayeret Matkal and on rearmament, and gave various courses in the fields of combat intelligence and fighting in built-up areas
'Don't anger the Russians'
The Israelis operating in Georgia attempted to convince the Israeli Aerospace Industries to sell various systems to the Georgian air force, but were turned down.The reason for the refusal was "special" relations created between the Aerospace Industries and Russia in terms of improving fighter jets produced in the former USSR and the fear that selling weapons to Georgia would anger the Russians and prompt them to cancel the deals
Israelis' activity in Georgia and the deals they struck there were all authorized by the Defense Ministry.Israel viewed Georgia as a friendly state to which there is no reason not to sell arms systems similar to those Israel exports to other countries in the world
As the tension between Russia and Georgia grew, however, increasing voices were heard in Israel – particularly in the Foreign Ministry – calling on the Defense Ministry to be more selective in the approval of the deals with Georgia for fear that they would anger Russia
"It was clear that too many unmistakable Israeli systems in the possesion of the Georgian army would be like a red cloth in the face of a raging bull as far as Russia is concerned," explained a source in the defense establishment
For inctance, the Russians viewed the operation of the Elbit System's RPVs as a real provocation
"It was clear that the Russians were angry," says a defense establishment source, "and that the interception of three of these RPVs in the past three months was an expression of this anger.Not everyone in Israel understood the sensitive nerve Israel touched when it supplied such an advanced arms system to a country whose relations with Russia are highly tense
In May it was eventually decide to approve future deals with Georgia only for the sale of non-offensive weapon systems, such as intelligence, communications and computer systems, and not to approve deals for the sale of rifles, aircraft, sells, etc
A senior source in the Military Industry said Saturday that despite some reporters, the activity of Georgia's military industry was extremely limited
"We conducted a small job for them several years ago," he said."The rest of the deals remained on paper
Dov Pikulin, one of the owners of the Authentico company specializing in trips and journeys to the area, says however that "the Israeli is the main investor in the Georgian economy.Everyone is there, directly or indirectly
Georgian minister: Israel should be proud
"The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers," Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili said Saturday
Yakobashvili is a Jew and is fluent in Hebrew."We are now in a fight against the great Russia," he said, "and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House, because Georgia cannot survive on its own
"It's important that the entire world understands that what is happening in Georgia now will affect the entire world order.It's not just Georgia's business, but the entire world's business
One of the Georgian parliament members did not settle Saturday for the call for American aid, urging Israel to help stop the Russian offensive as well: "We need help from the UN and from our friends, headed by the United States and Israel.Today Georgia is in danger – tomorrow all the democratic countries in the region and in the entire world will be in danger too
Zvi Zinger and Hanan Greenberg contributed to this report
Bill Kristol, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams and Douglas Feith are ALL ISRAELI NEOCON SPIES (known as ZioCons) who had manipulated US war plannings in the Pentagon and destroying USA and killing American soldiers for Israel’s benefits – They made the illegal war against Iraq possible – Another Zionist dual Israeli-US citizen Michael Chertoff is about to roundup your families upon a massive FEMA martial law false flag event
..
The Real News
August 9, 2008
**************************************
Israel, Iran and the new neocons
**************************************
ANP: Neocons say Bush should let Israel attack Iran after election day before new president takes office
American News Project: Washington's neocons are alive and well, advising both John McCain and President Bush. Now many are saying Bush should permit Israel to attack Iran's nuclear facilities after Election Day before the new president takes office. ANP investigates as we chase down John Bolton, Bill Kristol and Frank Gaffney to see how far ahead these hawks are thinking.And a new report says the whole plan could backfire
Sibel Edmonds - The US NeoCon Military Industrial Complex - Turkey - Israeli Alliance
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